Basically a long winded version of what I said, Chapman said it was there. Her story has changed more than once. Reeve lived in 1935, at address, Indiana. Shortly after his arrival, the town became the epicenter of a shocking event that almost wrecked the Democratic Party's effort to win back the White House. He didn't even see him during the trial.Reeve Whitson could of course be the spook extraordinaire.but once again, what ends up happening is that theories abound because there are many people that just refuse to accept the verdict as it came down and go looking to find reasons why it must have happened. Imo, He racked up far more than enough of these activities to get sent back. Rick Dalton got Susan with the flamethrower and Cliff Booth smashed Krenwinkels face into the phone, fireplace mantle, glass picture on the wall and the coffee table so it's all good. He was a close friend of Sebring, Tate and Polanski. Is Moorehouse still alive? Let's try Whit Reevson. While I'm impressed by the civility here, it surprises me that so many people are dismissive of Reeve Wilson's role. "Thanks Grim,Another, more serious, error in HS, p. 49, is that it gives the license plate of Parent's car as ZLR 694. Multiple people told O'Neill that Whitson was an intelligence agent infiltrating Manson's group as well as the entire Laurel Canyon milieu. He was a close friend of Sebring, Tate and Polanski. Ajerseydevil said why Manson's parole was never revoked after all of his arrests for some fairly serious crimesWhy would someone's parole or probation be revoked for getting arrested ? But a lot of people only see what they want to see and if they don't want to see the truth because they don't like it then they won't see it. Red sold drugs in L. Canyon and knew Manson, Zappa, Yarrow, Cass, Tate, Polanski, and the rest of the musicians well. There was no reason to send him back.until there was.Anybody on parole would be arrested immediately and sent back to prisonClearly that is not true. According to Sanders, p. 197, Hurst delivered the bicycle between 6:30 and 7:00. Have a nice evening!!! [Irvin is talking about Reeve Whitson - Ed.] I can't say if that means anything with regard to conspiracy or governmental involvement, but parole violations require neither crime nor conviction. His daughter is a Bluebird survivor and her memories are returning in fractured pieces. left. But it was in those early days of '69 that it began to assume a definite shape and that the rest of the Family began to understand and assimilate it {well, as much as they did understand and assimilate it}. Chapter 6 - Who Was Reeve Whitson? June 2020 - Zodiac Killer Identified He was very, very helpful. And then there was the investigation he helped Col. Tate conduct. He GAVE his daughter to Manson. The similarities include a close relationship with Manson, the desert ranches, Skorzeny, drugs, a probable link to a very secret CIA division, and he was a killer. Quite a bit of "what I've read" has actually come from people who weren't stating die-hard fact, but in the mists of time I'd remember what I read but not the circumstance or context. Grim said"Ask yourself what it logically means to have "witnesses that vouch for Whitson's presence in the scene." Since Reeve was a CIA agent posing as a hippie, he would have been among the hippies in the van. Mon Durphy said regarding the killers you have to take into account that BY THEIR OWN ADMISSION they took 100s of trips on hallucinogenic drugs in addition to smoking marijuana daily, these people are bound to forget various things that most look at as things that are mere footnotes such as what piece of furniture was where, who said what first, where the flag was, what time it was, etc, etcThat would apply, even if they hadn't taken loads of drugs over a 4~5 year period. In fact, it's Bugliosi that brings out the fact that Whitson was with Hatami and his part in all the proceedings is as relevant as any flies that may have been in the office at the time. He was probably there for the bike delivery, the hippie van delivery and at El Coyote dining. Supposedly Debra Tate has the manuscript for the book, one of the claims in it was that Paul Caruso was representing Tom Harrigan and when Helder saw the new MDA drug on the to reports he wanted to get a sample analyzed but didn't know where to come by it so he asked Caruso if Hartigan would give him a sample and he did, it's awfully convenient how often Caruso's name pops up in the TLB saga. You give a certain impression that actually is not so. There are a number of people mentioned, for example in that first Tate police report, many of whom were involved in the investigation whom we never hear of again. Who knows if any of it is based in reality. After several years of this, they administered the coup de grace by immortalizing . ,fu A+N@Z"1lOE3I1.fna\Yic8$_vm\Q,Q Z c0#%^;xL`770 8T @/ )X G/ Of the 9 people you mention, one of them says Whitson was there. I would love to publish my book but I wrote it a certain way and don't want it to be cut up amd I don't want to be sued. He is asked why he did not revoke Manson's probation earlier and he explains why. Thabk you, Bunkhouse, Does anyone have any additional info on Reeve Whitson? He was involved in the two Kennedy assassinations as well as the MLK assassination, the CIA in Operation Bluebird, biker gangs and worked at Lookout Mountain Air Force Station at the top of Laurel Canyon. ..the housekeeper* told me, "That flag has always been here. So I think, like Mon says, the flag was there and Krenwinkel either didn't notice it or was was lying. Good to see you back, Grim!Now that your posting again, maybe you can put up Hatamis testimony on Whitson. Chapters are as followed: Prologue The Crime of the Century An Aura of Danger The Golden Penetrators The Holes in Helter Skelter Amnesia at the L.A. County Sheriff's Office Who Was Reeve Whitson? He absolutely did not. He told and then showed where a lot of missing women were. The Reeve Whitson character is intriguing, and I just don't know what to make of Sharon Tate's father. Read up on their historyI'm in full agreement with you on this. starviego saidI am now thinking those items were planted at the scene to subtly demonize the victims and to enable police to go off on their sham 'drug burn' diversion.I agree. Newly unearthed audio of Manson admitting he was part of a special "Federal Protection Program" when he was released from Terminal Island in March 1967 proves Tom O'Neill's contention there was a hands off policy towards Manson prior to the TLB killings. Sometimes, it's actually worth following theories to a logical conclusion. Well, the obvious question to me would be "why would he be talking about a race war to a complete stranger in January of 1969 ?" I don't see how O'Neill could have put that in his text without appearing overly pedanticYeah, I can see that. Friday, September 6, 2019 Reeve Whitson William writes: In Tom O'Neill's book Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties we learn about Reeve Whitson, a CIA agent disguised as a hippie. He was connected with Nazis, top US Gov. its being called 'Havana Syndrome' and its Believed it was caused by secret sonic weaponry now being called out in a new investigation. To keep it short, there was a CIA agent named Reeve Whitson in the Tate-Polanski circle who might have been known to the Manson family as well. Her Aunt says my friend knew several foreign languages and had a photographic memory back then. I don't know if it's a typo or just laziness. 3) The intersection of military intelligence, Hollywood and the mob runs directly into the Linkletter family, who were involved in a myriad of legitimate and no so much legit businesses. Can't shake old ways, he used to say" comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment CowOwn Additional comment actions Reeve Whitson: Builder, Seller, and Driver of Race Cars Others seperately said Whitson was CIA. %%EOF Lol who knows and also I stand corrected it was a VW microbus Manson traded it for, Regarding Moorehouse living at Cielo I never thought there was anything to it then I was listening to a recorded interview with Tom O'Neill who wrote the Chaos book, he said Altobelli told him that Melcher did let Moorehouse live at Cielo off and on during the summer of 1968, apparently this was one of the things O Neill asked Bugliosi in one of their many interviews for the book, O Neill said he started finding so many inconsistencies between that Bugs said publicly and what Melcher told him privately that Vince got so paranoid that he started threatening Tom about putting the things he heard from Melcher in the book. Reeve Whitsons father knew his son was going to the Cielo house the night of August 8. It was very tempting to engage in some of the posts, especially with Destroyer of Opinions. Grim said,The most immediate thing to notice is that Hatami only mentions Whitson once and even then, only because he's asked who he came to Bugliosi's office with. A:Right, there was ro reporterThe most immediate thing to notice is that Hatami only mentions Whitson once and even then, only because he's asked who he came to Bugliosi's office with. He was a marginally employed and only marginally sane police groupie. The Zodiac Killer and the CIA - Zodiac Killer Identified He never worked for the CIA, or any other federal agency. Mario George Nitrini 111 saidnice to see you're in top form being skeptical about me..lolI am, if nothing else, consistent on that !In all seriousness though, the dictionary definition of sceptical is "not easily convinced; having doubts or reservations. His daughter is a Bluebird survivor and her memories are returning in fractured pieces. The purpose behind the plot was to incite terror among white people and put the blame on black radicals. I don't buy into Bugliosis's Helter Skelter narrative however some of the girls have attested to This. In January the actual mechanics of HS were barely formulated in Charlie's mind. Read up on their history. You should have a read of it if you haven't already, with particular attention given to the testimiony of Terry Melcher and Dean Mooorehouse.That Moorehouse had been to Cielo while Melcher lived there in the summer of '68 is no secret. We don't the degree of his involvement or guilt. Mr. O'Neil proposes that Charlie may have been used as a pawn to catch bigger fish, this theory alone really makes this story much bigger. CHAOS Question : r/TrueAnon - Reddit You weren't in the Family. That = A BUM! I'm almost endlessly fascinated by the number of people who seem to have made it their life's mission to discount the overwhelming evidence that demonstrates that for the most part, things were as they were shown to be. LONG before O'Neill's book CHAOS came out, I was tracking Reeve Whitson because his name came up in the ORIGINAL Tate-Labianca trial transcripts. The documentary itself raises more questions than it answers and can't shed a positive light on the investigation, which was one of its goals. They had dinner at the restaurant and left about 9:45. He was connected with Nazis, top US Gov. I'm currently reading it and it is fantastic, notwithstanding the spelling and punctuation errors and wrong dates here and there. My friend's father was an ACE pilot who could supply anything covert. He (O'Neill) said nothing to that effect. In a Rolling Stone article, Paul Krassner wrote, "I had hoped to get confirmation of the heaviest lead in my research. William I think Doris saw that flag on the couch a couple of days before the murders. Winans was the one who coordinated the Tate-LaBianca killings. Ridgways victims were my age, I was in high school through most of it. Neutralizing the Left The Lawyer Swap Manson's Get-Out-of-Jail-Free Card The Haight-Ashbury Free Medical Clinic Mind Control Where Does It All Go? The Family only first heard about HS on new years eve 1968. Whitson had worked in Central America during the late 50s, close to the Folger Company's offices (Ecuador?). That clears things up. I remember reading that Moorehouse molested his daughtersIf there's one thing I've come to realize in regard to TLB and other matters of such complexity that have attracted much thought, controversy, speculation and revision, it's that the phrase "I read somewhere" or "I remember reading/seeing somewhere" is one that is fraught with pitfalls because it's almost used as a barometer of the truth of the matter whereas in actuality, it could mean anything, something or nothing at all. ZLR 694 belonged to Sharon's Camaro. It's much more factual than Helter Skelter. Evelle Younger worked with CIA agents Manny Pena and Enrique Hernandez on the RFK assassination case just a year prior to the Tate murders. They do a lot of illegal, ugly things against man's law, and against God's law. The one thing the alternatives have in common, if you bring them to a logical conclusion is.Charlie isn't ultimately responsible ! My opinion was Charles Manson was not very good at all.So, does my Twitter inter-action with George Christie mean nothing to you? Brenda ? ONeill got a lot of help for his book from Stephen Kay. I can honestly say, I'm very glad I never found out.And as Manson being a musician & singer? Robert Linkletter and Reeve Whitson - ProBoards Take the Manson murders, which we've all probably heard about ad nauseam. It belonged to them. I knew this long before O'Neill's book came out. William Alexander " Rip " Robertson Jr. (August 3, 1920 - December 1, 1970) [1] was a Central Intelligence Agency Case Officer in the 1950s, 1960s and 1970. It was the nation's top-secret film studio that produced more films (moon landing backup films) in one year than all the film studios in the L.A. area combined. There were a lot of discrepancies in the crime scene that could be resolved by assuming persons other than Texs team made entries into the house. He was also connected with WW II Nazis, especially Skorzeny, construction, the Mafia bosses Trafficante, Giancana, Ruby, he was an ace pilot, flew weapons and people into and out of Cuba, Central and South America. He is mentioned several times in the papers and documents of Robert B. Anderson, who was Eisenhower's Deputy Secretary of Defense and then his Treasury Secretary. Extended interview: 50 years after the Manson - The Georgia Straight Extensive research and a slew of FOIA requests did not produce a smoking gun or much beyond the shadowy, ill-explained presence around these events of Reeve Whitson, an alleged "intelligence operative." O'Neill also examines the CIA program MKULTRA, which may have gotten him closer to his goalbut not much. This comment has been removed by the author. Whitson and Bugliosi then coerced Hatami's testimony by threatening him with deportation. It's a matter of public record, I've seen the court documents but I don't remember where, I think those were the same charges Dean and Tex borrowed Melchers car to drive to court for. He was living with his parents in Los Angeles. I read Chaos, but came to a very different conclusion. California Deaths, 1940 - 1997. The flag was put on the couch after she and her co-murderers left, where it would be seen by Winifred in the morning. I find that hard to believe.In Krenwinkel's first parole hearing, she pretty much said she didn't remember anything about that night except chasing down Gibby. But his daughters ? Delivering arms, drugs, people, children were his usual business. That makes absolutely no sense. However, to be fair to ONeill, when I said that Hatami mentioned Whitson four times, I was being a bit sloppy in my choice of words. It seems that every time someone new "writes a book" they come up with all kinds of things that have never been thought of. So he proved his willingness to collude with the Feds. I've got several comments to make but right now I'm dealing with some personal crap. Ha,ha Ms Katie.Maybe for you "life just gets more better and more clearer"but for me?.NEVERMINDlolMario George Nitrini 111-----The OJ Simpson Case. "pg193Whitson's wife, Ellen Josefson: "He was working for the CIA""He(Whitson) said that his mother and Sharon Tate's mother were close" she said.pg196Linda Ruby, cousin to Whitson: "He(Whitson's father) knew that Reeve had planned to visit the Cielo house the night before"pg199FBI agent Roger "Frenchie" LaJeunesse: "Reeve Whitson was a part of putting the book together, the linchpin between all of us. So that got my train of thought going and I looked into it. Is there a pic with the couch with a flag?I can look, but I have to say, I'm just exhausted and will retire for the night.And don't nobody say "yeah". He's scared to die now that he's in he's eighties, so I don't see him killing himself. I also suspect John Lennon's murder is simply another example of a CHAOS/COINTELPRO operation, to discredit the Beatles and demean opposition to the Vietnam War (as far fetched as it sounds). But here's the thing. Their successors are illegal domestic NOCs at video game and social media suppliers, and APA handlers. I won't accept something just because someone says it. So you're right.What's very interesting to me is why was Charlie, a career criminal ON PAROLE, repeatedly released when arrested with drugs, prostituting young girls, possession of stolen property, speeding and leaving the stateCan you give details of one occasion where he was arrested in actual possession of drugs, actually prostituting young girls, actually in possession of stolen stuff and speeding ? In the Sanders book that I have it says Hearst delivered the bike between 6.30 and 7.30 which, according to Hearst is accurate as he testified arriving "about 7.00pm" and left "about 7.20. When they got to Cielos gate, he started asking weird questions about the cars in the lots. This is the third time. Convicted, yeah, I can see that. And did he not usually have permission for the few occasions he travelled out of state ? It was a probably Whitson tracking Abigail. Really? Reeve Whitson Profiles - Facebook However, it's important not to make the same mistake some make with Charles Manson and ascribe responsibility for every dodgy activity that took place within a given span and vest them with superhuman powers. I wouldn't base any findings on what she says. They were connected to Ed Durston, boyfriend of Diane Linkletter. Reeve Whitson was born circa 1931, at birth place, Illinois, to Mervyn Whitson and Florence Whitson. He had a talent for acting and moved to Los Angeles to be an actor at the Pasadena Playhouse. That guy was a nut-job! Can you put up Hursts testimony in order to settle who was right, Sanders or Bugliosi?Sanders is right.The first Tate homicide report states exactly what Sanders says in your quote. Did he betray his friends? Took me 20 years but I wrote a book about what y'all know as - Reddit 8. According to Sanders, p. 197, Hurst delivered the bicycle between 6:30 and 7:00. IF YOU REALLY BELIEVE THAT YOURE A POSER. The last is the clincher. When I think of those kinds of things, I actually start to get scared. When I learn of Bittaker's death 'I am going to party like it's 1999." About the same time, the dogkeeper William Garretson, arrived back at the guest house, transported by hippies in a van who gave him a ride from Sunset Boulevard. 2) in the early 1960s, Reeve Whitson was a Business Manager for a publishing /photography company in Paris that gave him a proper cover for his intelligence operations in Europe . Whenever I went over to Sharon's and I'd see the flag there, I'd tell her it wasn't right. It's such a huge book with such a plethora of facts and information that one can semi-overlook things that don't make a material difference to the case. Maybe he was there during Sharon's lunch with friends but nobody saw him because he moved too fast. He was never convicted of anything that was deemed to be serious enough to have him put back in the years '67~'69. He got a call from Reeve Whitson at 7:00 in the morning, a full NINETY minutes before Winifred Chapman arrived at the Cielo houseAnd he didn't report this to the Police ? That's not in any doubt. Bums don't earn a living with a paying job, they just move from camp to camp and sponge off folks.If Moorehouse lived at Cielo Drive when Melcher was there, it's news to me. My book is easy to read that's the way I intended it to be and that's why I don't want anyone cutting it up. The police report mentioned above said that Dareff was at the house to deal in drugs.I bring this up because I believe the occupants in the house were given lethargy-inducing drugs to reduce their will to resist, perhaps LSD tainted with an animal tranquillizer. Did you come down on your own?A: No, I have been called by his office to come downQ:Who was present when you were shown the photographs?A:Mr. Reeves WitsonQ:And Mr. Bugliosi?A:And Mr. BugliosiQ:And yourselfA:And myselfQ:And no one else?A:No one elsebeauders saidwhere have you been?Oh, just lurking for a while. Oddly, he frequently took his daughter with him on these flights. He dumped bodies in Portland and there are a bunch of missing prostitutes in that time frame in Portland as well. What is the general opinion of Robert Linkletter as a suspect? Oddly, he frequently took his daughter with him on these flights. He mentioned him once. !A beating within an inch of his life! Not now, however. I am in Chapter 6, when Reeve Whitson is just being introduced as the cryptic CIA agent "He used his thumbnail to tear the top-right-hand corner of every piece of paper he handled, to mark it. Yes he did but I was talking about at first I had always heard he actually came looking for Manson and when he found him at Spahn Charlie was able to run his game on Dean and supposedly Dean became a disciple even giving Charlie a baby grand piano for free which I believe Charlie traded for the black bus, what's creepy about Dean is that he was old even in 69, he was born in 1920 which made him damn near a decade and a half older than Manson and 30 years older than the other members of the group. Study the case properly, arm yourself with information that is there and you will see why he was not sent back to prison. If he worked for Bugliosi I don't remember his name being mentioned in his book, unless it was just a sentence and I've forgotten it.BTW, Hatami took many pics of Sharon at Cielo Drive. . He told me he was there after the murders, but before the police got there. What mystery within a mystery gnaws at you the most? : r - Reddit And for my legal reasons and MORE, I comment & blog a certain wayThat's kind of neither here nor there. Manson says the program was meant to "keep him out of jail." I'd never really thought about it but I noticed on various forums people mentioned Moorehouse living at Cielo as though it were a fact then it occurred to me that if such a close associate of the Family lived in Cielo, that would be a pretty significant thing yet I didn't recall the prosecution making any noise about it. He'd get arrested, that's all.That makes absolutely no senseIt makes abundant sense. He was living with all kinds of people because he didn't want to work and earn a living. Dr Paul Andrews, a CIA physician, woke up with permanent brain injuries without any physical infliction. Also Mon I think Whitson might be the truest character in O'Neill's book, but I think people are going to throw the baby out with the water on this one.
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